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One of the criteria with which the filling system is chosen, especially in recent pens, is that of its capacity. It is also one of the criteria on the basis of which we most frequently take sensational dazzles, also because there is a widespread prejudice that a [[piston filling]] pen contains much more ink than a [[cartridge filling]] one, which, with pens on the market today, is almost never true.  
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One of the criteria with which the filling system is chosen, especially in recent pens, is that of its capacity. It is also one of the criteria on the basis of which we most frequently take sensational dazzles, also because there is a widespread prejudice that a [[piston filler]] pen contains much more ink than a [[cartridge filler]] one, which, with pens on the market today, is almost never true.  
  
The following table of cartridge capacity is used as a reference (the measures mentioned have been collected on the internet, and have not yet been verified with the methodology adopted later; when they will be, the relevant column will be updated):
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The following table of cartridge capacity is used as a reference. The measures mentioned have been collected on the internet, and have not yet been verified with the methodology adopted later (weight difference between full and empty); when they will be, the relevant column will be updated:
  
 
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! Brand !!  Type !! Capacity !! Verified
 
! Brand !!  Type !! Capacity !! Verified
 
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| [[Pelikan]] || short || 0,77 ml || no
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| [[Lamy]] || long || 1.34 ml || yes
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| [[Pelikan]] || short || 0.85 ml || yes
 
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| [[Parker]] || long || 1.47 ml || no
 
| [[Parker]] || long || 1.47 ml || no
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| Internazional || long || 1.66 ml || no
 
| Internazional || long || 1.66 ml || no
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| [[Waterman]] || long || 1.49 ml || yes
 
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Per questo si è deciso di iniziare una raccolta di misure della effettiva capacità di inchiostro delle penne, ma perché una misura sia qualificabile come tale (e non si riduca ad un semplice enunciato), deve essere ripetibile, pertanto oltre ai risultati della stessa, deve essere dettagliata anche la metodologia utilizzata per ottenerla.
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==Measurement method==
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For this reason it was decided to start a collection of measures of the actual ink capacity of pens, but for a measure to qualify as such (and not be reduced to a simple statement), it must be repeatable, so in addition to the results of the same, the methodology used to obtain it must also be detailed.
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[[File:Bilancia-Precisione-Centigrammo.jpg|thumb|A scale for measurements accurate to a hundredth of a gram]]
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The measurements have been carried out using a scale with sufficient precision, capable to appreciate the hundredth of a gram (of those for weighing gold and jewellery, that you can find for about ten euros on the internet). To give an idea of the order of magnitude, a drop of water from a dropper is between 2 and 4 centigrams.
  
[[File:Bilancia-Precisione-Centigrammo.jpg|thumb|Una bilancia per misure precise al centesimo di grammo]]
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First the pen was weighed completely empty, washed and left to dry completely so as to avoid any residue due to liquid remaining in the [[feeder]]. Left to dry completely means holding the pen upside down with the nib resting on a sheet of absorbent paper for at least a week (actually, probably one day is enough), so as to exclude any residual water.
  
Le misure sono state eseguite utilizzando una bilancia di precisione sufficiente capace di apprezzare il centesimo di grammo, pesando prima la penna completamente scarica, lavata e lasciata asciugare (in modo da evitare anche il piccolo errore possibilmente introdotto dall'inchiostro rimanente nel [[conduttore]]) e poi caricata con acqua corrente. Per un confronto che tenga conto del liquido che resta nell'alimentatore, il peso è stato misurato più volte a partire dal primo caricamento da vuota ed asciutta, ripetendo dei cicli di carico e scarico.  
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Then the pen has been filled with tap water. For a comparison that takes into account the liquid remaining in the feeder, the weight was measured several times starting from the first filling of the empty and dry pen, repeating the loading and unloading cycles.
  
Si sono misurati più volte (almeno 10) sia il peso a penna carica, che a penna scaricata, quest'ultimo serve per stimare quanto liquido resta nel conduttore, ma si è presa come indicazione della capacità del caricamento il valore rispetto alla penna carica, perché le penne si caricano una volta che l'inchiostro è finito e non arriva più al pennino, e questo comprende anche quello presente nel conduttore. Dalle varie misure si è ottenuto media e deviazione standard.
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The filling was carried out normally as you do when you load the ink for writing, removing the excess liquid from the feeder (shaking it slightly to drip and placing the nib near the neck of the bottle to remove excess) and drying the one that may be present on the section. An ordinary bottle of ink was used (Waterman 50 ml, but any one is fine, just soak the pen tip completely in it).
  
Si è poi determinata la capacità in ml utilizzando il peso specifico dell'acqua che è 0,997 g/ml. La differenza fra acqua di rubinetto e acqua pura è al di sotto dei limiti apprezzabili della misura in centigrammi, ed inessenziale per la misura la cui precisione è di ±0,02 ml (somma dell'errore sistematico della bilancia per la differenza fra due misure, di 0,01 g), per la conversione comunque si può sostanzialmente  assumere una equivalenza di 1 g => 1 ml essendo la differenza al di sotto dell'errore di misura.  
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[[File:Esempio-Misura-Pelikan-481.jpg|thumb|An example of measurement]]
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We measured several times (at least 10) the weight both when the pen is loaded and when the pen is unloaded. From the various measurements the weight for a loaded and unloaded pen was obtained by calculating average and standard deviation. There is no point in using the highest value, the perfect filling does not exist, what is an indication of how much in ordinary use the pen actually charges, is the average.
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The value when the pen is discharged used to estimate how much liquid remains in the [[feeder]], but we took as an indication of the filling capacity the value when the pen is fully filled, because pens are filled once the ink is finished and no longer reaches the nib, and this also includes the one present in the feeder. However, you can use the weight of the unfilled pen for a fairer comparison with the capacity of the cartridges, as it indicates the capacity of the filling system alone (with cartridges the additional capacity of the ink held by the feeder when it is immersed in the ink bottle to charge the pen is not available; this is a limitation in the use of cartridges, other filling system provide this additional capacity).
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The capacity in ml was then determined using the specific weight of the water which is 0,997 g/ml. The difference between tap water and pure water is below the appreciable limits of the measurement in centigrams, and inessential for the measurement whose accuracy is ±0.02 ml (sum of the systematic error of 0.01 g of the scale in the difference between two measurements, even if the error is always higher for a filled pen weight measurement), for the conversion, however, we can substantially assume an equivalence of 1 g => 1 ml being the difference below the measurement error.
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==Results==
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On this page only the summary table of the measurement results is shown, for a direct comparison between the pens. The details of the individual measurements have been published (the first three ones are missing) in as many articles (italian only, sorry) on the forum, which you can find indexed at [https://forum.fountainpen.it/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=21199 this address].
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Keep in mind, however, that these measurements are those obtained using '''one'' specimen of the verified model, so they cannot take into account possible (and probable) differences between different specimens, resulting from construction differences or better or worse state of preservation of the loading in the case of period pens. For this it would be necessary to repeat the measurements with many specimens of the same model, an onerous task that can only be tackled in a distributed manner. We therefore remain available for publication of other results obtained by the same procedure, on other specimens of the models listed here.
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For the results, look at the '''Capacity''' column for the total filling capacity of the pen, which therefore also includes how much remains trapped in the feeder (which is the one available in practice), if you want to make a fairer comparison with the contents of a cartridge, look at the '''Load''' column, which estimates how much is actually present in the tank.
  
 
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{| class="wikitable" style="float:center
!style="width: 20%"|Penna
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!style="width: 22%"|Pen
!style="width: 10%"|Tipo
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!style="width: 8%"|Type
!style="width: 17.5%"|Vuota
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!style="width: 13%"|Empty
!style="width: 17.5%"|Carica
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!style="width: 13%"|Filled
!style="width: 17.5%"|Scaricata
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!style="width: 13%"|Unloaded
!style="width: 17.5%"|Capacità
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!style="width: 13%"|Capacity
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!style="width: 13%"|Load
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| [[Pelikan 140]] ||[[piston filler|piston]]|| 14.33 ± 0.01 g || 15.98 ± 0.04 g ||  14.59 ± 0.03 g || 1.65 ± 0.05 ml|| 1.39 ± 0.07 ml
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| [[Duofold]] ''De Luxe''||[[button filler|button]]|| 22.10 ± 0.01 g || 24.00 ±  0.03 g || 22.35 ± 0.03 g || 1.90 ± 0.04 ml|| 1.65 ± 0.06 ml
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| [[Lamy 2000]] ('60s) ||[[piston filler|piston]]|| 20.88 ± 0.01 g || 22.68 ± 0.02 g ||  21.59 ± 0.02 g || 1.80 ± 0.03 ml||  1.09 ± 0.04 ml
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| Pelikan 481  || [[piston filler|piston]]  || 12.97 ± 0.01 g || 14.60 ± 0.01 g || 13.29 ± 0.01 g || 1.63 ± 0.01 ml || 1.31  ± 0.03 ml
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|[[Montblanc 146]] ('80s)|| [[piston filler|piston]] || 23.26 ± 0.01 g || 25.06 ± 0.01 g || 23.57 ± 0.01 g || 1.80 ± 0.02 ml || 1.49  ± 0.02 ml
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| [[Pelikan 120]]  || [[piston filler|piston]] || 14.06 ± 0.01 g || 15.82 ± 0.02 g || 14.31 ± 0.02 g || 1.76 ± 0.03 ml || 1.51  ± 0.03 ml
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| Pelikan MK10  || [[piston filler|piston]] || 13.67 ± 0.01 g || 15.06 ± 0.02 g || 13.99 ± 0.02 g || 1.39 ± 0.03 ml || 1.07  ± 0.04 ml
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| [[Astoria No. 2]]  || [[safety]] || 19.84 ± 0.01 g || 21.40 ± 0.01 g || 19,96 ± 0.02 g || 1.59 ± 0.02 ml || 1.44  ± 0.03 ml
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| Pelikan M600  || [[piston filler|piston]] || 13.91 ± 0.01 g || 15.54 ± 0.01 g || 14.26 ± 0.01 g || 1.63 ± 0.02 ml || 1.28  ± 0.02 ml
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| Pelikan M750  || [[piston filler|piston]] || 26.04 ± 0.01 g || 27.68 ± 0.02 g || 26.38 ± 0.01 g || 1.64 ± 0.03 ml || 1.31  ± 0.03 ml
 
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| [[Pelikan 140]] ||[[caricamento a stantuffo|stantuffo]]|| 14,33 ± 0,01 g || 15,98 ± 0,04 g || 14,59 ± 0,03 g || 1.65 ± 0,05 ml
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| Pelikan M800  || [[piston filler|piston]] || 29.13 ± 0,01 g || 30.77 ± 0.02 g || 29.54 ± 0,02 g || 1.64 ± 0.03 ml || 1.23  ± 0.04 ml  
 
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| [[Duofold]] ''De Luxe''||[[pulsante di fondo|pulsante]]|| 22,10 ± 0,01 g || 24,00 ± 0,03 g || 22.35 ± 0,03 g || 1.90 ± 0,04 ml
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| [[Pelikan 400]] || [[piston filler|piston]] || 14.45 ± 0.01 g || 17.61 ± 0.02 g || 15.67 ± 0.01 g || 2.16 ± 0.03 ml || 1.94  ± 0.04 ml  
 
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| [[Deco Band]]   || [[caricamento a levetta|levetta]]   || 22,82 ± 0,01 g || ± g ||   ± g ||  ± ml
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|[[Montblanc 149]] (post '95)|| [[piston filler|piston]] || 29.95 ± 0.01 g || 32.01 ± 0.01 g || 30.45 ± 0.02 g || 2.06 ± 0.02 ml || 1.56 ± 0.04 ml  
 
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Versione attuale delle 12:08, 9 dic 2023

One of the criteria with which the filling system is chosen, especially in recent pens, is that of its capacity. It is also one of the criteria on the basis of which we most frequently take sensational dazzles, also because there is a widespread prejudice that a piston filler pen contains much more ink than a cartridge filler one, which, with pens on the market today, is almost never true.

The following table of cartridge capacity is used as a reference. The measures mentioned have been collected on the internet, and have not yet been verified with the methodology adopted later (weight difference between full and empty); when they will be, the relevant column will be updated:

Brand Type Capacity Verified
Lamy long 1.34 ml yes
Pelikan short 0.85 ml yes
Parker long 1.47 ml no
Sheaffer slim 1.20 ml no
Sheaffer standard 1.50 ml no
Internazional long 1.66 ml no
Waterman long 1.49 ml yes

Measurement method

For this reason it was decided to start a collection of measures of the actual ink capacity of pens, but for a measure to qualify as such (and not be reduced to a simple statement), it must be repeatable, so in addition to the results of the same, the methodology used to obtain it must also be detailed.

A scale for measurements accurate to a hundredth of a gram

The measurements have been carried out using a scale with sufficient precision, capable to appreciate the hundredth of a gram (of those for weighing gold and jewellery, that you can find for about ten euros on the internet). To give an idea of the order of magnitude, a drop of water from a dropper is between 2 and 4 centigrams.

First the pen was weighed completely empty, washed and left to dry completely so as to avoid any residue due to liquid remaining in the feeder. Left to dry completely means holding the pen upside down with the nib resting on a sheet of absorbent paper for at least a week (actually, probably one day is enough), so as to exclude any residual water.

Then the pen has been filled with tap water. For a comparison that takes into account the liquid remaining in the feeder, the weight was measured several times starting from the first filling of the empty and dry pen, repeating the loading and unloading cycles.

The filling was carried out normally as you do when you load the ink for writing, removing the excess liquid from the feeder (shaking it slightly to drip and placing the nib near the neck of the bottle to remove excess) and drying the one that may be present on the section. An ordinary bottle of ink was used (Waterman 50 ml, but any one is fine, just soak the pen tip completely in it).

An example of measurement

We measured several times (at least 10) the weight both when the pen is loaded and when the pen is unloaded. From the various measurements the weight for a loaded and unloaded pen was obtained by calculating average and standard deviation. There is no point in using the highest value, the perfect filling does not exist, what is an indication of how much in ordinary use the pen actually charges, is the average.

The value when the pen is discharged used to estimate how much liquid remains in the feeder, but we took as an indication of the filling capacity the value when the pen is fully filled, because pens are filled once the ink is finished and no longer reaches the nib, and this also includes the one present in the feeder. However, you can use the weight of the unfilled pen for a fairer comparison with the capacity of the cartridges, as it indicates the capacity of the filling system alone (with cartridges the additional capacity of the ink held by the feeder when it is immersed in the ink bottle to charge the pen is not available; this is a limitation in the use of cartridges, other filling system provide this additional capacity).

The capacity in ml was then determined using the specific weight of the water which is 0,997 g/ml. The difference between tap water and pure water is below the appreciable limits of the measurement in centigrams, and inessential for the measurement whose accuracy is ±0.02 ml (sum of the systematic error of 0.01 g of the scale in the difference between two measurements, even if the error is always higher for a filled pen weight measurement), for the conversion, however, we can substantially assume an equivalence of 1 g => 1 ml being the difference below the measurement error.

Results

On this page only the summary table of the measurement results is shown, for a direct comparison between the pens. The details of the individual measurements have been published (the first three ones are missing) in as many articles (italian only, sorry) on the forum, which you can find indexed at this address.

Keep in mind, however, that these measurements are those obtained using 'one specimen of the verified model, so they cannot take into account possible (and probable) differences between different specimens, resulting from construction differences or better or worse state of preservation of the loading in the case of period pens. For this it would be necessary to repeat the measurements with many specimens of the same model, an onerous task that can only be tackled in a distributed manner. We therefore remain available for publication of other results obtained by the same procedure, on other specimens of the models listed here.

For the results, look at the Capacity column for the total filling capacity of the pen, which therefore also includes how much remains trapped in the feeder (which is the one available in practice), if you want to make a fairer comparison with the contents of a cartridge, look at the Load column, which estimates how much is actually present in the tank.

Pen Type Empty Filled Unloaded Capacity Load
Pelikan 140 piston 14.33 ± 0.01 g 15.98 ± 0.04 g 14.59 ± 0.03 g 1.65 ± 0.05 ml 1.39 ± 0.07 ml
Duofold De Luxe button 22.10 ± 0.01 g 24.00 ± 0.03 g 22.35 ± 0.03 g 1.90 ± 0.04 ml 1.65 ± 0.06 ml
Lamy 2000 ('60s) piston 20.88 ± 0.01 g 22.68 ± 0.02 g 21.59 ± 0.02 g 1.80 ± 0.03 ml 1.09 ± 0.04 ml
Pelikan 481 piston 12.97 ± 0.01 g 14.60 ± 0.01 g 13.29 ± 0.01 g 1.63 ± 0.01 ml 1.31 ± 0.03 ml
Montblanc 146 ('80s) piston 23.26 ± 0.01 g 25.06 ± 0.01 g 23.57 ± 0.01 g 1.80 ± 0.02 ml 1.49 ± 0.02 ml
Pelikan 120 piston 14.06 ± 0.01 g 15.82 ± 0.02 g 14.31 ± 0.02 g 1.76 ± 0.03 ml 1.51 ± 0.03 ml
Pelikan MK10 piston 13.67 ± 0.01 g 15.06 ± 0.02 g 13.99 ± 0.02 g 1.39 ± 0.03 ml 1.07 ± 0.04 ml
Astoria No. 2 safety 19.84 ± 0.01 g 21.40 ± 0.01 g 19,96 ± 0.02 g 1.59 ± 0.02 ml 1.44 ± 0.03 ml
Pelikan M600 piston 13.91 ± 0.01 g 15.54 ± 0.01 g 14.26 ± 0.01 g 1.63 ± 0.02 ml 1.28 ± 0.02 ml
Pelikan M750 piston 26.04 ± 0.01 g 27.68 ± 0.02 g 26.38 ± 0.01 g 1.64 ± 0.03 ml 1.31 ± 0.03 ml
Pelikan M800 piston 29.13 ± 0,01 g 30.77 ± 0.02 g 29.54 ± 0,02 g 1.64 ± 0.03 ml 1.23 ± 0.04 ml
Pelikan 400 piston 14.45 ± 0.01 g 17.61 ± 0.02 g 15.67 ± 0.01 g 2.16 ± 0.03 ml 1.94 ± 0.04 ml
Montblanc 149 (post '95) piston 29.95 ± 0.01 g 32.01 ± 0.01 g 30.45 ± 0.02 g 2.06 ± 0.02 ml 1.56 ± 0.04 ml